A Response to Fr. Chazal’s Antisedevacantist Rhetoric by Gregorius

This is all the so-called “Resistance” is worth. It’s an internal fight of the same theological position about secondary issues. The main issue was and remains: is the Conciliar Church the Catholic Church? If yes, then submission to the Conciliar Pope is a matter of salvation. If not, then Bergoglio and his predecessors of unhappy memory should be regarded as usurpers stripped of any and all authority over Catholics.

I strongly recommend this article by the always excellent Gregorius.

Pelagius Asturiensis

A DEVASTATING REALITY CHECK

You Can’t Have It „Your Way”:
A Response to Fr. Chazal’s Arguments against Sedevacantism
in his Dec. 8 Letter to „Fr.” Paul Kramer

by Gregorius

At the end of November 2013, the well-known traditionalist Novus Ordo priest Rev. Paul Kramer, editor of the popular book The Devil’s Final Battle, declared publicly that Francis could not possibly be the Pope of the Catholic Church and that the Holy See was vacant. As Kramer had hitherto been loosely affiliated with the Fatima Center, The Remnant, and Catholic Family News and had joined their well-known opposition to sedevacantism, this announcement came as quite a surprise to many. Shortly thereafter, however, Kramer began to say that even though Francis was not a true Pope, he was convinced that Benedict XVI’s resignation on Feb. 28, 2013, was invalid and that Benedict was still reigning as the true Pope. (We gave this novel position the label „Resignationism.”) You can read both of our reports on the Rev. Kramer conversion here:

Medice, cura teipsum or the Sedevacantophobia of Fr. Stehlin

Medice, cura teipsum or the Sedevacantophobia of Fr. Stehlin

Sedevacantism as the „orphan disease”… That’s a new one.

If the doctor does not know a given disease, how can he authoritatively propose a cure? And when he himself is so sick (incurably?) that he considers sick the healthy patient, then we have a tragic situation indeed. It would be better for healthy people to avoid such a “doctor”, so that he himself would not accidentally (on purpose?) infect them.

The most recent issue of “Zawsze wierni”¹ does not excel in accurate judgments and proper conclusions, as it was already to be seen with respect to the “Escape into Dreams” text². As it was to be expected, in the description written in language characteristic rather of a charismatic presbyter than a thomistic author, there was place for the pestilence, cholera, ulcers, virus, bacteria of the terribly contagious sedevacantism. Due to the frightening appearance of a human being struck by this exceptionally infectious physico-psychic disease, Fr. Stehlin, in the role of a “doctor”, conducts once again a scaring therapy. In the article entitled “Who standeth, let him take heed lest he fall” available on the Internet (it is again possible to save a few zlotys), one can savor the seemingly “scholarly analysis” and the proposed treatment:

From the Resistance to Sedevacantism

The following is the English translation of the article published on my blog (pelagiusasturiensis.wordpress.com) on August 22. I explain here the circumstances and point out the texts that led me to abandon the SSPX “recognize-and-resist” ecclesiology and recognize the fact that the Church finds herself with no pope by reason of heresy and apostasy of those who hold positions of ecclesiastical authority. This is not a treatise on the sedevacantist position.

It is not “dogmatizing” sedevacantism, what most of those ignorant of what it really is fear, but a theoretical principle guiding my actions. If the essence of liberalism is a dualism between convictions and actions, I join those who are firmly convinced of the fact that the “Chair is empty” and act in total conformity with this fact. It is having nothing to do with heretics, nullam partem habere, not only in practice, but in theory as well. Having no authority to do it, by no means do I impose it. Catholics do not have to believe the See is vacant. They must, however, offer due submission to the Supreme Pontiff as required by Boniface VIII in the bull Unam Sanctam.